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Heavy KB swings VS DL and more

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:53 pm
by Barkadion
I don't like T-nation, but I like Bret Contreras's stuff.

https://www.t-nation.com/training/are-h ... -deadlifts

BTW, my short term experience with KB swings as a finisher is great!

Re: Heavy KB swings VS DL and more

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:57 pm
by Saracen
Awesome article. T-Nation has some solid stuff, you just gotta separate the junk.

Re: Heavy KB swings VS DL and more

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:07 pm
by MuftiMike
This certainly resonates with my experience. I can neglect deadlifts for weeks, and if I'm regularly swinging heavy (32kg+ for me) I can come back to the DL with no change or even improvements. Don't know how it would shake out with lighter KBs though.

Re: Heavy KB swings VS DL and more

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:12 pm
by Green2Blue
I can't see any exercise replacing my beloved deadlifts. But this has kind of motivated me into possibly adding swings into my conditioning in the future.

T-Nation puts out a lot of good, FREE information. But they do exist to make money so you have to sort through the garbage.

Re: Heavy KB swings VS DL and more

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:14 am
by J-Madd
I haven't pulled very heavy in over a year, but I've been seining the crap out a heavy kettlebells in the meantime. Over the last few weeks I've been doing some programing that involves hitting rep maxes on the DL, and I'm still estimating out at a bit over 90% of my all-time best DL 1RM. In my experience swinging a heavy KB can keep your DL in very good order. I don't know that swinging alone can improve the DL, but it can maintain it. I also find heavy swings a lot less expensive in terms of recovery/injury than the DL, so they might will in terms of the "minimal effective dose" principle.

Re: Heavy KB swings VS DL and more

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:41 am
by Blackmetalbunny
Green2Blue wrote:T-Nation puts out a lot of good, FREE information. But they do exist to make money so you have to sort through the garbage.
Most of the time I skim through T-Nations articles first, if there is a mention about Biotest products I usually will ignore the article.

i also tend to avoid certain authors.

Re: Heavy KB swings VS DL and more

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:53 am
by Stechkin
T-Nation is alright if you ignore all the shilling for supplements. I like the stuff by Dan John and Ben Bruno, but even in their articles you will sometimes find some sort of diet suggestion that includes "add one scoop of [random snake oil]." I don't know if they add that in in order to get published or if the editors put that in, either way I just ignore it.