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Klokov Tabata

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:55 pm
by Barkadion
Would you call it cardio? Those russians :D :D

https://youtu.be/MHYxQYkV8ps

Re: Klokov Tabata

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:28 pm
by Blackmetalbunny
I think you've been misled, tovarishch. I don't see any vodka around.

Re: Klokov Tabata

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:34 pm
by Barkadion
Blackmetalbunny wrote:I think you've been misled, tovarishch. I don't see any vodka around.
It's in the blood. Red by all means :D

Re: Klokov Tabata

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:54 am
by nickgoldma
What an animal. That looks awesome. And brutal. It also gives me some ideas for the future. I like this.

Re: Klokov Tabata

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:29 pm
by Barkadion
nickgoldma wrote:What an animal. That looks awesome. And brutal. It also gives me some ideas for the future. I like this.
Right.. Brutal is good sometimes :D

Re: Klokov Tabata

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:15 pm
by Train_Hard_Live_Easy
It did look brutal, that's for sure.

Other than looking intense for youtube audience, what is it actually doing?

Tabata was a very specific protocol, with a specific type of bike being the tool used...... anything else is not Tabata, it's simply a 20/10 timing scheme..... even then, the original tabata included 10 min warm-ups at a specific rate and steady state work on the 5th day, [They actually ended up doing 70 minutes of steady state work over the 5day week] which nobody really pays attention to. Indeed the steady state group made consistent improvements to their aerobic conditioning over the entire test, whereas the test group only saw improvements in the initial 3 weeks.

So, using weights for 20/10 can be really f'in hard, but it's not Tabata, and certainly won't give the results cited by the study.

For a break in routine, for a novelty factor, to push the envelope.... then absolutely I use this protocol...... but I don't go in with any other intentions than those cited at the beginning of the sentence.

Sorry, it's just a pet peeve with me...... seeing tabata planks being done at a local gym really gripped my sh*t.

Re: Klokov Tabata

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:23 pm
by Barkadion
Train_Hard_Live_Easy wrote:It did look brutal, that's for sure.

Other than looking intense for youtube audience, what is it actually doing?

Tabata was a very specific protocol, with a specific type of bike being the tool used...... anything else is not Tabata, it's simply a 20/10 timing scheme..... even then, the original tabata included 10 min warm-ups at a specific rate and steady state work on the 5th day, [They actually ended up doing 70 minutes of steady state work over the 5day week] which nobody really pays attention to. Indeed the steady state group made consistent improvements to their aerobic conditioning over the entire test, whereas the test group only saw improvements in the initial 3 weeks.

So, using weights for 20/10 can be really f'in hard, but it's not Tabata, and certainly won't give the results cited by the study.

For a break in routine, for a novelty factor, to push the envelope.... then absolutely I use this protocol...... but I don't go in with any other intentions than those cited at the beginning of the sentence.

Sorry, it's just a pet peeve with me...... seeing tabata planks being done at a local gym really gripped my sh*t.
So, you like your Tabata plain.. no Russian flavor ;)

Re: Klokov Tabata

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:39 pm
by Train_Hard_Live_Easy
Barkadion wrote: So, you like your Tabata plain.. no Russian flavor ;)
:lol: :lol:

Re: Klokov Tabata

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:56 pm
by NFARCH
Train_Hard_Live_Easy wrote:It did look brutal, that's for sure.

Other than looking intense for youtube audience, what is it actually doing?

Tabata was a very specific protocol, with a specific type of bike being the tool used...... anything else is not Tabata, it's simply a 20/10 timing scheme..... even then, the original tabata included 10 min warm-ups at a specific rate and steady state work on the 5th day, [They actually ended up doing 70 minutes of steady state work over the 5day week] which nobody really pays attention to. Indeed the steady state group made consistent improvements to their aerobic conditioning over the entire test, whereas the test group only saw improvements in the initial 3 weeks.

So, using weights for 20/10 can be really f'in hard, but it's not Tabata, and certainly won't give the results cited by the study.

For a break in routine, for a novelty factor, to push the envelope.... then absolutely I use this protocol...... but I don't go in with any other intentions than those cited at the beginning of the sentence.

Sorry, it's just a pet peeve with me...... seeing tabata planks being done at a local gym really gripped my sh*t.
x 100 man.

The guy doing this looks impressive, but the actual workout seems like pretty standard GC/work capacity fare. Ross Enamait has been prescribing protocols like this for years using various drills. Definitely falls squarely in the GC category.

Given me a few ideas for my next SE cluster though...