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Immune system question

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:10 pm
by Barkadion
I have been getting sick with different types of flu/viral sickness quite often lately.. Which is unusual for me. Still recovering from brutal one (2nd week). That makes me think..

Would you guys be able to recommend any supps/meds/whatever to boos the immune system? Have you dealt with something like that yourself?

Any advise is highly appreciated!

Re: Immune system question

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:52 pm
by WhoDey
How are you doing in the following non-supplement areas which affect the immune system?
  • Diet
    Stress
    Sleep
    Exercise - as in over-exercising
I do take a good multi-vitamin, a probiotic, vitamin D, and CoQ10.

Since the immune system is a "system", it's difficult to say with confidence that any single element of the above results in improved function, but I hardly ever get sick any more since paying close attention to lifestyle factors (diet, stress, sleep, exercise) and taking the few supplements I listed.

Re: Immune system question

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:00 pm
by Barkadion
WhoDey wrote:How are you doing in the following non-supplement areas which affect the immune system?
  • Diet
    Stress
    Sleep
    Exercise - as in over-exercising
I do take a good multi-vitamin, a probiotic, vitamin D, and CoQ10.

Since the immune system is a "system", it's difficult to say with confidence that any single element of the above results in improved function, but I hardly ever get sick any more since paying close attention to lifestyle factors (diet, stress, sleep, exercise) and taking the few supplements I listed.
Thanks! I'd say everything from your list is in check except for the sleep due to being "new" dad (twins are in house). But I have been dealing with it for a year now and it seems to be manageable. Meaning I am well adjusted to it by now.

How does CoQ10 work for you? Do you see any difference from just Multi Vits?

Have you heard of Priority One Vitamins Bio-Vegetarian vitamins? I know few people who say it is an immune magic.. But I have my doubts..

Thanks again!

Re: Immune system question

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:43 pm
by WhoDey
Well, being a new dad might be having an impact! Looking back, I can see how my sleep/diet/stress took a hit during that time.

I don't know about the multivitamin you listed. I take "Garden of Life Multivitamin for Men". I'm a researcher by trade, so I understand and accept the difficulty of "proving" that supplements are beneficial. Personally, I take a multi as sort of an insurance policy. I suppose a person could cycle on/off a supplement and decide for themselves whether or not there is a benefit.

CoQ10. A bit of backstory ... I suffered a heart event (heart attack) approximately 1.5 years ago and, among other things, the doctor put me on a statin. Statins can reduce CoQ10 levels, so many cardiologists recommend taking a CoQ10 supplement. Again, I see it as a type of insurance.

I honestly can't say with certainty the benefit of any single supplement, but I do feel like my immune system is stronger than it was pre-heart attack. I know of others that are more aggressive in taking supplements, but I'm fairly conservative. I would be careful in taking megadoses of a supplement.

I also made significant changes to my diet in that I consume a lot more vegetables and fruit than before. I've pretty much eliminated dairy which I think has resulted in great improvement in my seasonal allergies.

Re: Immune system question

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:56 pm
by Barkadion
WhoDey wrote:Well, being a new dad might be having an impact! Looking back, I can see how my sleep/diet/stress took a hit during that time.

I don't know about the multivitamin you listed. I take "Garden of Life Multivitamin for Men". I'm a researcher by trade, so I understand and accept the difficulty of "proving" that supplements are beneficial. Personally, I take a multi as sort of an insurance policy. I suppose a person could cycle on/off a supplement and decide for themselves whether or not there is a benefit.

CoQ10. A bit of backstory ... I suffered a heart event (heart attack) approximately 1.5 years ago and, among other things, the doctor put me on a statin. Statins can reduce CoQ10 levels, so many cardiologists recommend taking a CoQ10 supplement. Again, I see it as a type of insurance.

I honestly can't say with certainty the benefit of any single supplement, but I do feel like my immune system is stronger than it was pre-heart attack. I know of others that are more aggressive in taking supplements, but I'm fairly conservative. I would be careful in taking megadoses of a supplement.

I also made significant changes to my diet in that I consume a lot more vegetables and fruit than before. I've pretty much eliminated dairy which I think has resulted in great improvement in my seasonal allergies.
I am familiar with "Garden of Life Multivitamin for Men". I think it is rated highly on labdoor and it seems to be a good Multi.

I am big on dairy. Interesting.. I have never thought of it's relation to the allergies... I will need to look that up..

Thank you!

Re: Immune system question

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:13 am
by TangoZero
Barkadion wrote:I have been getting sick with different types of flu/viral sickness quite often lately.. Which is unusual for me. Still recovering from brutal one (2nd week). That makes me think..

Would you guys be able to recommend any supps/meds/whatever to boos the immune system? Have you dealt with something like that yourself?

Any advise is highly appreciated!
Have you stopped training? I'd suggest doing that for a couple weeks before getting into meds or supplements....your body might be trying to tell you something.

Re: Immune system question

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:19 am
by StayGrey
Don't know if it was placebo or not but I've had a good experience with the adaptagen Rhodiola and/or Adapt 232 (Adapt contains Rhodiola). It has some science behind it.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16323290

That being said I don't know if Adapt is available anymore but rhodiola is.

Re: Immune system question

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:21 am
by Barkadion
TangoZero wrote:
Barkadion wrote:I have been getting sick with different types of flu/viral sickness quite often lately.. Which is unusual for me. Still recovering from brutal one (2nd week). That makes me think..

Would you guys be able to recommend any supps/meds/whatever to boos the immune system? Have you dealt with something like that yourself?

Any advise is highly appreciated!
Have you stopped training? I'd suggest doing that for a couple weeks before getting into meds or supplements....your body might be trying to tell you something.
It mostly tells me that I'm having the best block so far :) Almost no issues with recovery.. some shitty flu is going around and few of my relatives are sick. It just happens to me often lately.

Re: Immune system question

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:23 am
by Barkadion
StayGrey wrote:Don't know if it was placebo or not but I've had a good experience with the adaptagen Rhodiola and/or Adapt 232 (Adapt contains Rhodiola). It has some science behind it.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16323290

That being said I don't know if Adapt is available anymore but rhodiola is.
Thank you! Will look into it!

Re: Immune system question

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:58 am
by DocOctagon
Bark, zinc can help as long as you don't overdo it. The right dose of zinc strengthens immunity, going too high weakens it bey depleting copper which then lowers neutrophils. Neutrophils are the tip of the spear for your immune system. About 15mg of zinc is the sweet spot.