Why do you train?

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Why do you train?

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Short but good article by JW.. He is cool.

Someone asked him what is the reason to train? He gives several reasons.
This one is really surprised me but it is my favorite for now:

"To understand that compassion and empathy is noble but not given lightly."

https://jimwendler.com/blogs/jimwendler ... to-do-this
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Barkadion wrote:Short but good article by JW.. He is cool.

Someone asked him what is the reason to train? He gives several reasons.
This one is really surprised me but it is my favorite for now:

"To understand that compassion and empathy is noble but not given lightly."

https://jimwendler.com/blogs/jimwendler ... to-do-this
I don't really get what that one means to be honest.

I like the others - the idea of strong is useful and be prepared, though.

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Dave1 wrote:
Barkadion wrote:Short but good article by JW.. He is cool.

Someone asked him what is the reason to train? He gives several reasons.
This one is really surprised me but it is my favorite for now:

"To understand that compassion and empathy is noble but not given lightly."

https://jimwendler.com/blogs/jimwendler ... to-do-this
I don't really get what that one means to be honest.

I like the others - the idea of strong is useful and be prepared, though.
Here is my take on that.

It takes a lot of work to understand the compassion and to develop it. You can achieve it by pushing yourself and by changing yourself in the way of training. Training is journey of self-discovery. You get to understand your nature. You get to understand the compassion. You develop compassion by changing yourself. Compassion is changing in a way.
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Nice! I feel like this could do well being printed off and placed on many an office wall.

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I never understand where people try and get philosophical with their reason to train.(I am not saying that it's wrong though)
I do this purely for myself even though my work colleagues benefit from it.
My reason:

Stronger,faster and harder to kill :)

In the tactical environment you don't have the option of losing.

I never want to be the weak link in any team physically.
I need to remember this when I train and not push too hard on days I might need to perform at work.

This reminds me that I am due to do some base building as I am struggling to recover from day to day training lately.
4 more OP I/A session and it's time to rest and rebuild while I have a month off work :)

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Maxrip13 wrote:I never understand where people try and get philosophical with their reason to train.(I am not saying that it's wrong though)
I do this purely for myself even though my work colleagues benefit from it.
My reason:

Stronger,faster and harder to kill :)

In the tactical environment you don't have the option of losing.

I never want to be the weak link in any team physically.
I need to remember this when I train and not push too hard on days I might need to perform at work.

This reminds me that I am due to do some base building as I am struggling to recover from day to day training lately.
4 more OP I/A session and it's time to rest and rebuild while I have a month off work :)
Different personalities, Max. Some people just born/ blessed/doomed to it. I can always see good soft-hard JW’s philosophical spot in even his strongest sayings. I like that.
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Maxrip13 wrote:I never understand where people try and get philosophical with their reason to train.(I am not saying that it's wrong though)
I do this purely for myself even though my work colleagues benefit from it.
My reason:

Stronger,faster and harder to kill :)

In the tactical environment you don't have the option of losing.

I never want to be the weak link in any team physically.
I need to remember this when I train and not push too hard on days I might need to perform at work.

This reminds me that I am due to do some base building as I am struggling to recover from day to day training lately.
4 more OP I/A session and it's time to rest and rebuild while I have a month off work :)
I'm with you on this one. Training can be life changing - but hardly mystical. (Maybe paradoxically) this quote hits home for me more than the woo:

"Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.

Still want to quit?"

Attributed to a SOF member or written on the wall of some SO school somewhere for selection candidates. I'm not into this one in a political sense - more about the mindset it portrays. I sort of touch on this in TBII when I talk about how I got carried away with Gucci kit/and things that don't really matter - worrying about the icing and forgetting about the cake.

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K.B. wrote:
Maxrip13 wrote:I never understand where people try and get philosophical with their reason to train.(I am not saying that it's wrong though)
I do this purely for myself even though my work colleagues benefit from it.
My reason:

Stronger,faster and harder to kill :)

In the tactical environment you don't have the option of losing.

I never want to be the weak link in any team physically.
I need to remember this when I train and not push too hard on days I might need to perform at work.

This reminds me that I am due to do some base building as I am struggling to recover from day to day training lately.
4 more OP I/A session and it's time to rest and rebuild while I have a month off work :)
I'm with you on this one. Training can be life changing - but hardly mystical. (Maybe paradoxically) this quote hits home for me more than the woo:

"Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.

Still want to quit?"

Attributed to a SOF member or written on the wall of some SO school somewhere for selection candidates. I'm not into this one in a political sense - more about the mindset it portrays. I sort of touch on this in TBII when I talk about how I got carried away with Gucci kit/and things that don't really matter - worrying about the icing and forgetting about the cake.
Now that is relatable :D

I remember reading something similar somewhere before. Thanks for sharing it.

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This is another good one. I have this as my desktop background.
It sums things up nicely I think.

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Thanks for posting Bark. Much respect to JW, his programming is world class

One thought that’s always stuck with me since my wrestling days is your “opponent” and his training habits. He’s training when you are training, except harder and in worse conditions. He’s training when you are resting. He’s training when you make excuses not to train. Are you prepared to meet your oppponent? This still translates to day to day life for me

Training has more meaning to me than I can explain

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