Forced Progression Question

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It should be added to true max as adding it to training max may lead to a significant jump in the actual training max. Since you are adding 5-10 pounds in TB style force progression then adding 90% of that force progression, i.e., 4.5 pounds - 9 pounds to training max should be fine.

If a difference of 1 pound is not significant jump for you then feel free to add it as such to your training max, but after 2-3 blocks you may need to calculate your training max using true max.

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bytes-cruncher wrote:It should be added to true max as adding it to training max may lead to a significant jump in the actual training max. Since you are adding 5-10 pounds in TB style force progression then adding 90% of that force progression, i.e., 4.5 pounds - 9 pounds to training max should be fine.

If a difference of 1 pound is not significant jump for you then feel free to add it as such to your training max, but after 2-3 blocks you may need to calculate your training max using true max.
So you are using micro plate or you round? I've always rounded to the lowest 5

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Yes, I round down to lowest five and use fractional plates if available in the gym.

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I do things a bit differently. When I started TB I tested and had my true maxes, then started my training with a training max of 95%. Ever since then I've used forced progression with my training max. I haven't retested my true max since starting TB, because I just don't care about it. As far as I know some of my current training maxes have surpassed my old true maxes.

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Green2Blue wrote:I do things a bit differently. When I started TB I tested and had my true maxes, then started my training with a training max of 95%. Ever since then I've used forced progression with my training max. I haven't retested my true max since starting TB, because I just don't care about it. As far as I know some of my current training maxes have surpassed my old true maxes.
That's how I think about that. I am too new to TB to make it real just yet. But you are proving my thoughts. I've been thinking to keep going with small forced progression for a year or so. Maybe even every other block if things get tough.

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Barkadion wrote:
Green2Blue wrote:I do things a bit differently. When I started TB I tested and had my true maxes, then started my training with a training max of 95%. Ever since then I've used forced progression with my training max. I haven't retested my true max since starting TB, because I just don't care about it. As far as I know some of my current training maxes have surpassed my old true maxes.
That's how I think about that. I am too new to TB to make it real just yet. But you are proving my thoughts. I've been thinking to keep going with small forced progression for a year or so. Maybe even every other block if things get tough.

Thanks!
This is what I do too. If my t-max was 100, and I had a good block, I bump my t-max up to 105.

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J-Madd wrote:
Barkadion wrote:
Green2Blue wrote:I do things a bit differently. When I started TB I tested and had my true maxes, then started my training with a training max of 95%. Ever since then I've used forced progression with my training max. I haven't retested my true max since starting TB, because I just don't care about it. As far as I know some of my current training maxes have surpassed my old true maxes.
That's how I think about that. I am too new to TB to make it real just yet. But you are proving my thoughts. I've been thinking to keep going with small forced progression for a year or so. Maybe even every other block if things get tough.

Thanks!
This is what I do too. If my t-max was 100, and I had a good block, I bump my t-max up to 105.
Thank you!
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Yes, keep it simple by adding it to the true max and go from there. I have made the things sound more complicated then it should be.

This is what I meant, suppose at block t your true max is true_max(t) then your training max, i.e., training_max(t) is 0.9*true_max(t) at block t. For block t+1, after forced progression by 10lbs your true max becomes (true_max(t) + 10) and your training max is 0.9*(true_max(t) + 10), i.e., training_max(t) + 0.9*10. Hence, you have just added 90% of forced progression (here 10lbs) to your previous training max for next block.

Ignore the above if it doesn't make sense, as it might be unnecessary complicated but it is the same as adding the forced progression weight to your true max. As others have said, if you have a good block then forced progression on training max is fine but ideally I think it should be done on true max.

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